CBR F2 parts on VTR?

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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby the benz master » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:19 pm

the mana seems to have the same wheel as the RSV's. weights 11.5 pounds from memory. I have one of these wheels at home too ;) With a single rotor, you should be quite closse to the VTR's front end weight.



P.S. Damn AF1... the prices on the RS125 wheels just went up quite a lot over the week-end !!! :cry:
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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby YoshiHNS » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:53 pm

Also, shipping those wheels would have been pricey too.

Yeah, the front wheel probably weighs a little over 11lbs, and it should be the same as the RSVs. But my 848 rear wheel is 9.8lbs, and the front a bit lighter. That Aprilia wheel is heavy heavy heavy.
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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby YoshiHNS » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:53 pm

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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby squirrelman » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:45 pm

Hurricane 600 forks are the same as on '86/'87 VFR 700/750s, along with same rotors, calipers, axle, etc. (Hurricane wheel is 17", VFR 16".) Since i've done mucho miles on several '86s and alot on VTR 250s too, my humble opinion is do nothing to increase front end weight, just upgrade stock forks and exploit the best advantage of the VTR, it's light weight, nimble handling (like a feather !!!!), and sensible power. :lol: Chassis flex, have you figured that in the changed dynamics ? :mrgreen: It might look good, but the basic engineering could be bad. :oops:

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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby the benz master » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:45 pm

then your 848 has freaking awesome forged wheels my friend... The aprilia forged rear wheel is 11.6 pounds...
A Marchesini Forged Magnesium Rear wheel for the aprilia is 9.25lbs ... and these are 4000$ for the pair !!! http://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/ ... oduct=3202


dont expect the VTR's wheels to be so light. 11 pounds is actually very common in sportbike front wheels (zx6, zx7, zx10, z1000, aprilia RSV (not forged), CBR929... they all weight around the same)

so unless you want to spend 1800$+ on a set of forged wheels, i wouldnt worry too much about that. The VTR front wheel must weight very close to 11 lbs anyway, old casting technologies... for a small bike that has to be cheap to produce... never yields the lightest parts.

For reference:
Stock CBR250 mc22 front end weights 51 pounds. That's including fender, clip-ons, both tripple clamps, wheel, tire (110/70-17 arrowmax GT501) and caliper/hoses/master cyl.
2004 ZX10 front end with z1000 wheel and rotors (with both calipers/rotors) weights 57 pounds (including all the stuff that was on the scale for the cbr front end but with a Pirelli corsa3 120/70-17)
ZX10 front end with a single rotor set-up weights 51 pounds

600 forks are usually a tad smaller than 1000... so maybe a pound less? and Z1000 rotors are not lightened like ZX10 ones are. So i guess another 1/2 pound there. And Kawasaki rotors are 6mm thick instead of 4-5mm for hondas and aprilia... still a bit of weight to save here...

How much is the weight of a complete 1989 front end?
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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby the benz master » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:53 pm

P.S. the 848 has MARCHESINI forged wheels AND is single sided swingarm !!! which means that you dont have the sprocket holder, or the bearings or the disc brake holder included in the wheel weight has you would normally have on a regular bike.... so please, cut the crap. :lol:

it's like comparing the weight of Dodge caravan wheels with some from a ferrarri... comparison is TOTALLY biased, there is nothing to compare... Specially price wise. :roll:
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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby YoshiHNS » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:35 pm

the benz master wrote:P.S. the 848 has MARCHESINI forged wheels AND is single sided swingarm !!! which means that you dont have the sprocket holder, or the bearings or the disc brake holder included in the wheel weight has you would normally have on a regular bike.... so please, cut the crap. :lol:

it's like comparing the weight of Dodge caravan wheels with some from a ferrarri... comparison is TOTALLY biased, there is nothing to compare... Specially price wise. :roll:


I have the 848 rear for my VFR750 project, not the VTR. And yes, it is 9.8lbs. Got it really cheap since the holes for the drive pins were screwed up. Welded it up and machined it back to how it should have been. Fits like a glove on a triumph axle. Have to machine the axle to make it work on the VFR, but all the other parts I already machined. Only have been waiting for two years to finish that project.

I was more comparing how that rear wheel weighs less than most fronts sans rotors and tires. But I get where some extra weight comes from.
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Re: CBR F2 parts on VTR?

Postby Ray Shaibuck » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:02 pm

Thanks for all the info fellas. I'm just tossing around ideas here and there for projects on the bike. I gave my CBR 600 to ride whenever so tinkering with the VTR is really just a passtime. I definitely agree about keeping it light; I just didn't really think about it. My mind was more in the disc brakes all around and "normal" tire size thought process
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